The first of a 2 part episode, Shep and company start with a light chat about changes and increasing diversity in entertainment television.
We complete the 2nd half of our interview with expert journalist, Richard Goldstein who discusses the current state and future of American democracy.
Then longtime political reporter, Steve Chaggaris joins the crew to discuss more serious topics including the insurrection, the 1st amendment, voting rights, far right media and the country's growing tribal divide.